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That  need  management.  And  I  think  the  problem  here  is  that  they've  been  ignored  for

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too  long.  Like,  everybody  wants  something,  but  they  don't

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want  to  put  money  into  it.  Not  you  guys.  The  government  wants,  you  know,  they  want  agriculture.

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They  want  beef.  They  want  hay.  They  want  those  things.  But  they  don't  want  to  support

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a  lot  of  the  times  monetarily  some  of  the  things  that  are  required  in  order  to

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make  those  things  happen.

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So,  it's  been  put  off  too  long,  and  now,  because

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we've  had  these  successive  drought  years,  it's  really  come  to  light  how  poorly

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prepared  we  are  for  these  kinds  of  situations.

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So,  I  think  with  time,  in  the  next  four

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years,  there  could  be  a  lot  of  things  done,  and  a  lot  of  organizations.

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that  are  already  doing  the  work  supported  because  so

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one  of  the  things  that  i've  recognized  since  i

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started  running  for  the  area  director  is  that  so  many  of  the  communities  are  already

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doing  the  work

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like  people  are  already  putting  the  time  in  they're  on  the  committees  they  have

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people  some

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people  are  doing  research  for  free  surveying  doing  all  kinds  of  stuff  so

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that  we  can  protect  the  water

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And I think that's incredible.

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So why are we not supporting these people that are already working so hard?

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Because  the  last  guy  who  ran  left  us  high  in  July,  we

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had  no  support.

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Oh, great.

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Next question.

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This is for all the candidates.

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Where do you each stand on...

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Big  or  small  government,  I'm  thinking  of  things  like  more  bylaws,  more  regulations.

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Do you feel, personally, I have a lot of other people here,

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we're happy with as little government as possible.

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So my question is, where do you stand on that, all the three of you?

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I generally share your views.

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I have no interest in bringing in.

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more  requirements  for  building  permits  or  any  additional  bylaws

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like  the  whole  thing  for  me

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is  if  if  as  a  community  you  know  everybody  came  to  me  and  said  we

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need  a  bylaw  for  this

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then  that  might  be  something  that  we  would  look  at  but  i  have  no  ulterior  motives  of

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bringing  in

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bylaws that nobody wants

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I  agree  with  you.  Building  inspection  is  not  something  this

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community  supports,  so  that's  off  the  radar.  That's  been  off  the  radar  for  a  long

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time.

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That got shot down already.

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Oh,  it  got  shot  down  a  long  time  ago.  Yeah.  As  far  as  more

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rules,  well,  you  only  establish  rules  when  you  need  them.  And  there

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has  to  be  a  strong  rationale.

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for establishing those rules and regulations.

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That takes an awful lot of discussion, and those things don't occur overnight either.

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Those things take a long, long, long time to establish.

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Local government is very careful about not imposing new rules on the community

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if they're unnecessary.

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I wouldn't be imposing new rules on the community for any reason.

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I like less than...

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government  too.  That's  why  I  live  here.  I  think

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the  best  answer  is  a  shorter  answer.  Area  D  doesn't

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need  to  be  saved.  It  just  needs  to  be  left  alone.  That's  the  bottom  line.  We  don't  need  big  city

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improvements here. Period. End of conversation. No bylaws. It's not necessary.

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Um,  I'm  just  wondering,  um,  if

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any  of  you  belong  to  any  associations  or  organizations

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within  the  community,  and  if  you  get  elected,  how  do

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you  plan  to  be  available  for  people

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to approach you?

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So I'll start with that one.

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Um, I, I was.

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president  for  the  Falkland  Heritage  and  Museum.  I  was  also  vice

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president  for  the  Haunting  Falkland

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and  now  I'm  back  at  the  museum.  So  I'm  just  a  sitting  board

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member  pitching  in.  I  like  flooding

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the rink here too so I kind of do that. So I make time. At the end of the day I make time. I make

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time  for  people.  I'm  one  of  those  people  where  I'm  never  too  busy  to  say  hey  you  got  a  sec.  I'm

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first guy that's going to go yep absolutely.

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slam  on  the  brakes  and  so  that's  that's  the  best  answer  is  there's  no

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such  thing  as  i  don't  have

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enough  time  for  everything  yeah

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me  too  i'm  pretty  much  retired  so  i'm  available

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i'll  answer  to  a  phone  call  an  invitation  to  go  somewhere  by  a  community  association

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community  group  and  i  have  the  one  group  that

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we  are  my  wife  and  i  are

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by our active members are Issa Falkland Seniors,

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and it's a good group of folks that I like to attend

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those regular meetings.

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But yes, just like John says, you just have to pick up the phone

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and give us a call, and we'll be available.

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I'm going to have the longest answer to this question.

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So, partly to clarify something that I said in Silver Creek,

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several  questions  about  it  so  currently  I  am  the  controller  for

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a  company  I  do

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their finances this is actually probably the biggest thing that I bring to the

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table  is  the  fact  that  I  understand  reading  monetary  reports  very  well  and

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feel  like  I'm  going  to  be  doing  a  lot  of  that  however  what  I  said  in

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silver

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Greek  is  that  I  would  quit  that  job  and  I  would  take  this  as  my  new  job

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to  clarify  that  i  am  currently  i  am  putting  in  place  systems

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to  not  leave  that  company

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without  somebody  to  do  that  job  because  i  feel  like

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that's  my  responsibility  as  an  employee

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so  i  currently  have  a  i'm  going  to  say  i

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have  two  part -time  jobs  and  uh

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My  plan  is  to  change  that  to  two  different  part -time  jobs,  and

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one  of  my  part -time  jobs  is  also  teaching  hubbu  and  tai  chi,  which  is  more  flexible

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than  one  might  think.

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Anyways,  my  point  was  that  I  wanted  to  just  say  that

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my  plan  is  that  I  would  be  in

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the  communities  available,  participating.

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as  well  as  representing  my

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favorite  thing  that  I  do  is  teach  those  classes  and

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it's  not  because

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I  teach  Tai  Chi  and  I'm  like  woo  it's  because  I  love  getting  to  know  people  out

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here  and  it  gives

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me  such  a  great  bridge  to  meet  new  people  so  whether  that's

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parents  I  have  some  seniors  I  have

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kids I have all my

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stuff  and  again  since  running  for  this  i've  actually  made  so  many  new

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friends  in  different

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districts  and  it's  something  that  i  would  love  to  continue  to  do  so  whether  or  not  i

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end  up  as  the

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electoral  area  director  i  hope  to  continue  to  participate  in  all  those

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things

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so this is on it

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kind of different subject.

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Logan Lake, a small community,

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has

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a medical bus that actually

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goes to Logan Lake and takes you to

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Cameras, takes you to Kelowna,

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takes you to Vern, wherever.

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What is your,

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would you push to have

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it be able to stop? It passes

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right by us. Stop

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and look after

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our communities, West

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us,  Area  D  actually,  to  make

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it  more  accessible.  Not  everybody  drives  to  the  hospital  and

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lots

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of  people  have  appointments  in  either  Kelowna,  Vernon,  Camelot,

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Salmon  Arm  even.  Would  you

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support  and  push  for  the  medical  bus  to  actually  stop?

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so  i  actually  also  had  this  conversation  with  some  seniors  recently  at  that  senior's

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lunch

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because  i  found  out  that  the  bus  does  stop  here  on  request  the

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bus  stops  between  campus  and

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on  request  however  that  doesn't  leave  a  lot  of  options

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for  many  people  i  do  think  that  it  would

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be something that would be firstly who here

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even knew that, because I didn't know that, and many people have asked me about it. So

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until  I  had  that  conversation,  another  thing  that  I  feel  like  people  in  Fallen  aren't

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aware  exists.  A  lot  of  the  problems  that  people  have

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brought  to  me,  I've  recognized  it's  just

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because  they  don't  have  the  information.  So,

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but  yes,  I  think  that  more  buses  would  be

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I  don't  know  how  to  make  that  happen,  but  if  they're  willing  to  stop  here,  there's  no  reason  that  we  couldn't  facilitate

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that  somehow.

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I don't know if you have anything to add to that.

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Many years ago, there was actually a dentist in Falkland.

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He  was  a  young  dentist  just  starting  out,  and  then  he  switched  to  establishing  his

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own  practice  in  Armstrong.

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But  he  performed  dental  services  in  Falkland  for  a  while,

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and  that  was  well  appreciated.

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And  when  Greyhound  still  ran,  they  would  shop  in  Falkland  too,  so  you  could  get

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picked  up  in  Falkland  and  drop  off  in  vergon  or  salmon  art  or  camels  or  whatever.

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Why  Greyhound  shut  the  service  down,  I  really  don't  know.  That's  a  sad

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thing  to  happen,  but  yes,  there  needs  to  be  services,

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medical  services.

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or  transportation  services  so  people  can  get  to  their  doctors

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wherever  they  are  in  time.

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And I think neighbors are really good about helping each other do that sort of thing.

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Yeah, I mean, I think the whole medical aspect is pretty important.

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People do need rides. That's absolutely for certain.

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You know, having a conversation with a company doing it, it's a super easy phone call.

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you  know  minimum  seven  numbers  on  the  telephone  and  you're  talking  to  somebody  so

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i  look  by  the

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theory  there's  no  such  thing  as  stupid  questions  just  stupid  answers  so  if

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you  go  and  call  them

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i'd be willing to entertain something like that to push to get something like that here absolutely

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especially if it's going to help residents out

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we've touched on the

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of  this  a  couple  of  times,  and  I  want  to  speak  up  gay  for  Renee.  He

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used  to  sit  at  the  pizza

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ranch  every  Tuesday  afternoon.  So  if  you  wanted  to  get  a  hold  of  him,

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to  tell  him  something

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or  to  ask  him  something  or  to  get  him  to  stir  up  something  and  sell  an  arm,  he  was  there.

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It  was  regular.  And  it  was  predictable.  And  I'm

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not  saying  that  he  was  the  greatest  at

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it, but he was the president.

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in  the  community  we  didn't  have  to  phone  them  or  find  them  and

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I  also  want  to

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mention  the  difference  between  leadership  and  representation

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so  my

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question  to  you  is  what  are  you  going  to  do  to  make  yourself  accessible  and

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do

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you  think  that  a  director  is  a  representative  or

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a  leader

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We had a leader, most recently, and it didn't go well.

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Well, I can tell you that when I was an Equal Area Director,

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my peers got enough of me to elect to be chair.

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So that is a leadership position.

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I also chaired the Salmon River Watershed Roundtable.

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I chair currently, I've been chairing for about the last five years,

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to the committee.

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of the Board of North O'Kanagan Regional District, an advisory committee,

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fairly as a volunteer thing on my behalf,

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because  the  general  manager  asked  me  if  I'd  be  willing  to  chair.

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If you chair things, you're exercising leadership.

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So  that's  a  few  leadership  examples  where  I've

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exercised  leadership.

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As a director?

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As a director on the board?

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Are you a leader or are you a representative?

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Well, both. I have to listen to the voice of the community.

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That's what the job of Electoral Area Director is,

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is  to  carry  the  voice  of  the  community  forward  to  the  peers

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on  the  regional  district  board.

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That is a show of leadership.

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You're carrying...

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information  forward  in  a  leading  way  and  then  if  you're  able  to

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pursue  if  on

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matters of concern if you're able to persuade the board to back you up that's

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an example of leadership

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accessible  what  will  you  do  to  make  yourself  accessible  to  that

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area

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I  don't  know  how  available  I  would  be  to  come  and  sit  in  the  coffee  shop  on  Saturday  afternoons

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and  hold  off  this.

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This was 20 years ago.

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Yeah, that's a long time ago.

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But  years  ago,  when  we  established  the  Fulton  and  District  Community

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Learning  Centre,  there  was  a  little  white  belt  down  there.

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I  sat  there  a  lot,  and  when  we  moved  it  over  to  where  Fabian  Cracken's  gift  store

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is  now,

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I  was  in  there  a  lot  too,  helping,  brought  internet  services  into  the  community

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for  free  for  people  to  use.

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I  was  accessible,  and  I  put  in

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a  lot  of  hours  there  for  nothing,

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just  to  provide  the  service,  because  I  enjoyed  providing  the  service  for  the  community.

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um  well  i've  actually  in  the  past  several

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weeks  had  the  opportunity  to  meet  many  people

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who  have  reached  out  to  me  either  on  facebook  or  via

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telephone  or  any  of  the  above  um  for  them

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to

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just ask me

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coffee  and  tell  me  their  concerns.  And  I

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made  time  for  those  things,  and  I  think  that  those

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things  are  important.  The  thing  of  being

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an  area  director,  I  do  think  there  is  a  lot  of

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it  that  is  representation.  You're  there  to  represent  the  community.  But

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when  you  go  into

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a meeting, if you don't want to go into a meeting, if you don't want to go into a meeting, if

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If  you  can't  bring  your  ideas  and  your  thoughts  to  the  committee  with

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a  certain  amount  of  gumption,

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I don't think you're going to get very far.

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I do think that it requires both skills.

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You  have  to  be  able  to  put  yourself  out  there  and  lead  a  conversation,

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and also be willing to step back and listen.

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And I think that I can...

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both  of  those  things  very  well.  So

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the  first  part,  I  will  say,  I  definitely  be  available.

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I'm  always  out  in  the  community,  whether  I'm  walking  or  anything.  I  am

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so  easy  to  find.

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In  fact,  I've  tried  hiding  and  I  really  sucked  at  it.  So  yeah,

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it  didn't  work  out.  So  I'm

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good that way. I don't like the word leader.

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I really don't like that word.

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It sounds so entitled.

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I would be a voice.

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That is what I mean.

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I  would  be  acting  on  the  faith  of  the  people  that  voted  me  in  and  being  their

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voice  at  a  table  of  13  people.

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That's my take on it.

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I hope that answers yours, but that was the best I could give you.

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Thank you.

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job  as  time  consuming.  We  lived  here  50

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years  now  and  this  community  has  grown  huge.  And

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groups  have  come  and  gone  and  they've  all  been  attributed,

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you  know,  doing  really  cool

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things  to  this  community.  They  don't  have  so  much  anymore

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as  far  as  baseball,  as  far

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as baseball tournaments, as far as

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as  a  Toastmasters  group,  as  far  as  a  fitness  group,  things  like  we

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deteriorated  with  size

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as  far  as  I'm  concerned.  And  I  do  see  this  junk  behind  me  that

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said,  light  it  up.  For

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one  example,  Vernon  just  made  an  announcement  that  they're

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not  going  to  renew  the  lease

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on  O 'Keeffe  Ranch.  Vernon  has  lit  it  up  and  I  will

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sign  the  petition  they've  got  out  there.

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Would  any  of  you  put  the  time  in  to  make  yourself  available  to  say,

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this  day,  at  this  time,  I'm  going  to  be  sitting  with  a  petition  to  be  signed  for  the  RCMP?

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That  kind  of  light  up.  It  doesn't  have  to  be  everybody  from  Falkland.  It  can  be

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people  from  everywhere  that  are  concerned.

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Our school was a concern, and that goes far in line.

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So it's good to take time.

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put  in  to  light  us  up  and  this  guy's  right  behind  me  we  need  to  get

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lit  up  we  need  a  big  voice

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a  loud  voice  but  being  an  area  director  you

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know  do  you  have  the  time  it's  going  to  take

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to  light  us  up  john  start  with

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you  i  definitely  have  the  time

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I  definitely  have  the  energy.  I  am  so  ready  to  get  out  there.  I'm

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a  Norwegian  boy  and

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this is going to be my fallback and if anybody holds it against me, it's the Norwegian side,

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but I like to pick a fight. So I'm definitely going to be there.

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Yeah, I think my community help and I can do all of it.

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that you're asking for. You heard my pitch, and you know the depth of my

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experience  in  various  venues,  various  organizations.  I'm  retired

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now,  but  I

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can  still,  I  still  have  the  energy  to  employ  all

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of  that  training,  all  that

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knowledge, all that education, all that skill, to employ it in the community.

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That's what I want to do for the next four years, is do that instead of any of

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this other stuff that I had been doing.

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probably  still  could  be  doing  if  i  really  wanted  to  but  no  i  was  needed  at  home  i

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want  to  stay  in

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the  community  and  i  want  to  put  all  my  energy  towards  this  community  you  know

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like  delirium

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i've  been  asked  this  question  lots  of  times  because  i'm  a  i'm

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going  to  say  half  single  parent

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i have a super supportive family and in saying that i

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look  at  this  as  a  really  great  opportunity  to  show  my  daughter

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what  it's

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like  to  be  part  of  the  community  this  isn't  just  about  me  and

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it's  not  just

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about  me  doing  this  job  it's  also  a  really  great  way  for  me  to  show  her  that

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you  know  I  can  be  a  mom  and  I  can  also  be  part

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of  this  big  community  and

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hopefully again really

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present  people  and  try  to  bring  the  community  even  closer  than  it  is  that's

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that's  my  goal

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Well, just living through this summer, I can tell you that I didn't go anywhere.

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I didn't.

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My mom was at home for most of the time, and I was like, I'm not leaving you here.

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yourself  to  deal  with  stuff  if  there's  a  fire  i  would

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be  happy  to  do  that  yeah  because  in  2021

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that was my first year here was that year that we got evacuated and that was

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it was a disaster like the organization that

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happened, trying to get people back in to get their lives gone.

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We  want  to  know  what  you  guys  are  going  to  actually  step  up  and  do  in  the

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role  when  the

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fires  come  for  whatever  area  your  area  is,  what  your  goals

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are  going  to  be  and  how  you

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plan  on  stepping  forward  to  work  with  the  people  to  get  into  access

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to  the  properties

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and to...

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provide  making  sure  our  gas  stations  are  open  so  that  we  can  get  fuel  and

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to  step  back  and

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actually  be  part  of  the  community  and  with  that  it  could  be  also  the  media  aspect

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reaching  out

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to  people  not  depending  on  silver  creek  or  some  other  area  to  deal  with

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falsing  or  deep  creek  or

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something  else  much  like  how  this  meeting  came  about  i  think  that

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we  need  to  make  sure  we  have

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our presentation

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for  each  area,  and  that  you  guys  are  willing  to  step  up  to  the  plate,

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and  that's  what  we

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want to know as many of your guys as a game plan.

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I hear you.

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I hear you.

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A  lot  of  the  decisions  that  are  made  during  those  fires  are

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reactive,  and  there's  not

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a lot of thought that goes into them.

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I would absolutely, in general.

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I think the biggest problems that we have in our community is communication.

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I don't think that people know what's going on early enough.

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I don't think that they have time to react.

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And I think that a lot of it is left in your neighbor telling you what's happening.

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And I can 100% say that that would not be me.

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I  would  not  be  the  person  that's  leaving  it  for  my  neighbor  to  tell  somebody  else  what's  going  on  around  town.

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What would you be?

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Would you be willing to step forward to, for instance, who looks after the fires?

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Would  you  be  willing  to  step  forward  to  BC  firefighters  and  say,  our

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farmers  have  the  water  there,  we  have  the  sprinklers  there,  and  a

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lot  of  them  have  the  equipment  there,  and  we  would  like  you  to  let

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us  go  in.

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Yes, I agree with you.

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the  corner  was  walking  with  your  foreigners  those  were  the  people  that  fought  yeah

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i  agree

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and  i  can  tell  you  we're  going  to  tell  them  how  that  was  immense  like  during  the

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white  rock

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light  fire  when  we  were  chasing  our  house  up  in  the  range  that  was  on  fire  for  35  days

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if  it  wasn't  for  him  standing  up  and  working  with  us  we  would  have  been  in  a  lot  of  trouble

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see we went through the fire last summer when our fire was on

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to  the  bradley  creek  fire  we  got  absolutely  no  help  whatsoever  from

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dean  trompley  or  this

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yet  we  worked  with  the  dc  cattlemen  association  and  truce  so

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this  is  where  i'm  saying  you  guys

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need  to  step  up  and  actually  take  a  stand  and  start  fighting  for  us  in  this

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i  agree  with  you

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Well,  we  can  certainly  stand  up  and  speak,  but,  you

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know,  CSRD  has  kind  of  helped  us  when

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it  comes  to  wildfire.

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It's  out  of  our  hands.  You  can  ask  Troy  Ricard  what  the  Faulkner  Fire  Department  is

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able  to  do.

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When there's a wildfire...

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Wildfires  are  just  like  wildfires,  and  I  asked  him  one  of  you  guys,  who's  wild  students  and  everything,

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so  he  can  explain  it  to  you.

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I'm talking about getting the permits, when they put the load down.

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We're not talking about anything about it.

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They're talking about permits, they say, okay, we've loaded down and get the price,

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this day, that day, you're going to go and get the permit.

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Are you going to make those phone calls for us?

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Well, of course. Of course.

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The  other  job  is  to  help  in  whatever  way  possible  under

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extreme  circumstances.

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I mean, any one of us would do that.

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But that's that's the nature of the task that we're given

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Well,  I  don't

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know  what  the  last  thing  they  did

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We're  going  to

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kind  of  pass  the  fire  topic.

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I mean, it's obviously a hot topic.

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Yes, John will answer that question.

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It's a simple, quick answer, I promise, Sabrina.

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You asked what steps I'd take.

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The first one I would be is calling Renee Talbot to find out what had happened,

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to find out exactly what the L.A. did, and Rob gave it back.

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All right.

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Just a quick answer.

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clarify  on  the  RCMP.  First  of  all,  Silver  Creek

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is,  half  is  policed  by  Salmon  Arm,  the  other  half

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and  Falkland  are  policed  by  Vernon.  Part  of  Ranchero  D.  Creek  is

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policed  by  Enderby,  the  other  part

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by  Salmon  Arm.  Now,  Falkland,  there  are  three  dedicated

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police  officers  on  paper  that  are  Falkland

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members.

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Unfortunately,  I  spent  all  their  time  in  Henderby,  but  as  an

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elected  official,  whichever  one  of  you  gets  elected,  you  will  have  quarterly  meetings

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with  the  RCMP,  and  you  can  demand  more  presence  in  this  community,

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as  well  as  Silver  Creek.

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Unfortunately,  Salmon  Arm  doesn't  seem  to  play  very  well,  but  Vernon

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has  always  been  pretty  good  at  listening  when  you  attend.

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those  quarterly  meetings.  So  I  just  want  to  clarify  on  policing  because  you're  two

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different

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areas.  Soundarm,  burning.  Thank  you.  All

439
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right.  Any  other  questions  anyone  else?

440
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I think your mic's a transformer. It's making weird sounds.

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All right, if no one else has any more questions, we're going to wrap it up.
